there are a whole bunch coming to his defense, a bipartisan group of former secretaries of defense, let me name a few. they cosigned a letter in "the washington post" and let me read what they said. "we strongly object, as a matter of substance and as a matter of principle, to the attacks on the chark of former senator chuck hagel. mr. hagel is a man of unshakable character and integrity who has served his country in the most distinguished manner in peace and war." this is reagan's a second. that is a bipartisan group of highly respected people. why shouldn't those voices be as loud as special interests waging a campaign against chuck hagel? >> i don't think gay advocates, i don't think israel advocates are special interest. they are incredibly important base constituencies to the democrat party. they are also very significant in our society. they are people -- and let's also talk about this, with the gay comment he made. first of all, i think it shows a tremendous bias. i don't know what aggressively gay is, i can only describe it as aggressively stupid. i asked every gay friend of min